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The wiki at https://wiki.gnupg.org/ has some documentation, that can be moved here. The main contributor @bernhard has given his ok. Invite the community and, assuming broad consensus, convert documentation and import it here for further editing.

wiki.gnupg.org is written in moinmoin and creole markup.

As the wiki.gnupg.org authentication was relying on bugs.gnupg.org, which is shut down, this task has a high priority.

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marcus updated the task description. (Show Details)
marcus added a project: dev.gnupg.org.
werner lowered the priority of this task from High to Low.
werner raised the priority of this task from Low to High.

Note that we could switch the wiki.gnupg.org back to local authentification
(or any other authentification that moinmo.in provides, see https://moinmo.in/AuthMarket)
and continue using it.

As for the migration plans. I think we should decide which way to go. I see three possibilities:

  1. migrate everything
  2. migrate only a part, e.g. keep the development parts in the phabricator wiki and the user centric parts in wiki.gnupg.org.
  3. migrate nothing

I'll send an email to gnupg-devel to inform the community of this discussion.

After reviewing the content on the wiki, I don't think anymore that migrating the wiki as a whole is a good strategy, so I will close this simplicistic task. Discussing on the mailing list is of course appropriate.

Mail send: https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2017-August/033012.html

Ideas

  • We shall decide how much history to keep. Usually it would be good to keep the history for transparency reasons, but for a number of pages it may not be necessary, they could be recreated.
  • If we migrate a significant number of pages we should look into automatic conversion. There are several creole python parsers, so we should be able to write a transforming script with reasonable efforts.
  • It is possible to easily use some integration from moinmo.in to phabricator and the other way round.
  • If we decide to keep some contents on wiki.gnupg.org, we have an additional system to maintain, but also another system to be able to provide information.
  • How long will Phabricator be in use? (Moinmo.in software has a 17 year history an a four year history with GnuPG/Gpg4win. Phabricator has 7 years of history and is run a few month for GnuPG.)
  • The advantages of moving the Phabricator would be
    • Integration (what in particular? Updates when linking to issues?)
    • Only one wiki markup to learn for Devs.
    • Only one login.

Target audiences

  • wiki.gnupg.org was a catch all: dev people, users, wider community, openpgp, end-to-end Free Software crypto.
  • One idea would be to split a fraction of target groups and ony move them. Like the devs which would profit from the integration with phabricator a lot.
  • A second idea: A refocus on users or Gpg4win or the wide community with the wiki.gnupg.org.
  • A third idea: Another ways to split would be to say that the dev.gnupg.org wiki has the official infos and the wiki.gnupg.org is more open to people adding the infos (like wikipedia).

@marcus you've closed it while I was adding stuff. Where shall we document the way forward? In wiki.gnupg.org or https://dev.gnupg.org/w/ or in this task?

marcus renamed this task from Migrate Wiki to Explore wiki options..Aug 8 2017, 3:29 PM
marcus reopened this task as Open.
marcus removed marcus as the assignee of this task.
marcus lowered the priority of this task from High to Wishlist.

To avoid a single point of failure I would prefer to keep the wiki off from al-kindi and, if Intevation agrees, to keep it where it is.

Gathered information:

@marcus does not aim for migrating the wiki himself in the foreseeable future, thus we should reenable the wiki.gnupg.org as long as there is no clear plan -> T3342

@werner prefers that the wiki can run independently from dev.gnupg.org to avoid too much centralisation.

A single-sign on is potentially possible using https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabcontrib/article/using_oauthserver/ to configured at https://dev.gnupg.org/oauthserver . Moinmoin can be configured to use local passwords as backup. If a cookie is used, a short blackout of dev.gnupg.org would possibly be okay as well.