thanks for the clarification. i was not objecting to the workflow, i was trying to understand so that i can interact with the bug tracker appropriately. I was unaware of the difference between "milestones" and other project tags. I'll try to get that right in the future.

Please do not add milestone tags.

I put "scd" tag and let me claim this ticket.

For Beta-75 it looks similar judging from my first tries.

I managed to get the same "loading certificate" message several times in a row on this test instance by stopping and starting Kleopatra in a row twice. After removing the Signature Card 2.0 this did not happen again in 5-6 tries, although I collected 2 lingering listing processes again (not both started on the same startup). Even import of a X.509 certificate worked.

Next I managed to have one gpg and one gpgsm process each left over from the last execution of Kleopatra.
After starting Kleopatra new anyway, again "loading certificate cache" and an additional pair of gpg and gpgsm listing processes start.

Had a occurrence of the never ending "loading certificate cache" issue again.
There was a leftover gpgsm process from the previous tests (although Kleopatra warned when I closed it, that processes still running in the background were there and would be aborted).

@ebo Thank you for your continuous testing.

Unfortunately, this seems not to have ended the sporadic hangs.
I just saw a hanging initial keylisting with gpg4win-beta-70 which hast gpg 2.4.6

Backported to 2.4 to go into 2.4.6

Fix backported to 2.4

Passing ticket to werner to consider backports.

Tested with VS-Desktop-3.2.94.2-Beta.
Works as expected on the cli.

gpgme should handle lists correctly. In Kleopatra those options are not shown in the configuration dialog because they are GC_LEVEL_INVISIBLE, i.e. Kleopatra can read them programmatically but they are not shown to the user.

In T6882#191854, @werner wrote:

While testing this I noticed that only the last adsk or trusted key is listed. Thus several assurances of this options are not properly represented. See T7313

Fixed for master. Let's first test this with kleopatra.

Done for 2.2. It is already in 2.4.

Will do.

It is reproducible bug even with master branch.

werner: Can you also backport listing of "default-new-key-adsk" with gpgconf so that Kleopatra can check whether a default ADSK is set?

Backported to 2.2

I have a look at the log file of gpg-agent.log. I can see that six PKDECRYPT requests are handled simultaneously. I think that it's out of secure memory to decrypt the private key which results pinentry request.

We won't do that for Windows.

Fixed in 2.2 with: rGc33523a0132e047032c4d65f9dedec0297bfbef3