Thanks! please consider adding it to 2.2 and master as well. I suspect it's more outdated than it would be if it had been shipping in the upstream tarball.

I note that @DemiMarie offered a patch for this over a year ago. It doesn't appear to have had any review. If it's good, maybe apply it? If it's problematic, can we identify the problem?

by all means, please proofread it! thanks for the attention to detail. what was the grammar glitch?

I understand the desire for stable behavior, and i agree that a change here might affect verification of existing signatures (and might mean producing signatures that will be misinterpreted by older versions).

I have also not found a straightforward way to correct a cross-signature that was made with a weak digest algorithm using GnuPG.

The patch supplied here should apply to STABLE-BRANCH-2-4, but it should also be easy enough to backport to STABLE-BRANCH-2-2 and STABLE-BRANCH-1-4. For GnuPG master, i recommend actually removing the option.

One use case that seems sensible to me is to try to convince a long-running operation (e.g. a sequence of key generations) to all use a single timestamp. In this scenario, there's no interest in setting the clock to be some variant of the current time, just an interest in it remaining fixed across all the operations.

It looks to me like it's marginally more common to *not* use the lib prefix for pkgconfig files:

Note the relationship to T4195, T4826, and T4766

@werner i'm not sure i understand what "easy to enclose them in angle brackets just for comparison" means.

I recommend, when making a User ID with only an e-mail address, to populate the User IDs by wrapping it in an angle bracket, rather than just leaving the raw e-mail address. It's not just the regexp matcher -- there are other pieces of OpenPGP software that won't recognize a raw e-mail address in a user ID as an e-mail address. It also makes it easy to distinguish such a User ID from a User ID that is not at all an e-mail address.

Thanks, @gniibe -- i agree that this change to put_cert should be helpful, when encountering a certificate that is already invalid.

Thanks for the followup about R3, @mpilgrem! Looking at your logs in more details, and the source code for find_cert_bysubject in dirmngr/certcache.c, i think i see what the issue is. It's slightly more subtle than not terminating early if a known trusted root can validate a truncated chain.

@mpilgrem, i'm glad that removing the DST Root CA X3 from your windows control panel worked for you, but it still doesn't seem to be a reasonable fix from a GnuPG user perspective

@mpilgrem: in the meantime, for connecting to keys.openpgp.org, which *has* cleaned up its certificate chain, you might also want to try killing your dirmngr process, and/or cleaning up the data in .gnupg/dirmngr-cache.d/.

Basically, the website in question (e.g. https://openpgpkey.gnupg.org/, which exhibits this problem) serves up three certificates:

I see the patch which does look like it will guarantee that the test suite succeeds. But does it solve the underlying problem, though? I worry that it might just paper over a more subtle problem.

Debian requires all builds to use software that we have local copies of in the archive, which appears to rule out the use of speedo (it fetches source over the internet during build). So i've modified debian packaging to annotate that the Windows builds need a different version of libgpg-error than that defined in configure.ac.

this looks similar to https://dev.gnupg.org/T5935 and https://bugs.debian.org/1008573

Thanks for working on this, @gniibe! Maybe it would be useful to add a test to the test suite that tries to import and use a secret key of this particular structure.

thanks, looks good!

Thanks for looking into this, @gniibe! over on https://bugs.debian.org/1003313 Helmut is asking for a re-consideration because he wanted to match arm-linux-musleabihf. Would you be ok with a change like my proposal rE371d1c952297f781277b979a4662859ec80fe836 (on branch dkg/expand-musl), that expands *-*-linux-musl to *-*-linux-musl* ?

Thank you, @gniibe ! i'm applying your change to the debian packaging as 1.43-2. i'll let you know if it doesn't satisfy the folks trying to crossbuild debian on top of musl.

I share your concerns about centralization of keyserver infrastructure. Rejecting this security fix doesn't help keep keyservers decentralized, though.

Do we want to encourage multiple cleartext wire-format representations of the same secret key?

I've mentioned this interop issue (and tried to propose clarifying language for the revised standard) in the IETF OpenPGP WG mailing list.

I think rGba321b60bc3bfc29dfc6fa325dcabad4fac29f9c has nothing to do with interoperable formats -- how things are stored in ~/.gnupg/private-keys-v1.d is unrelated to the interoperable transferable secret key format specified in 4880 or its revisions.

The problem here appears to be that the "MPI" of the curve25519 secret key is not actually a standard-issue big-endian OpenPGP MPI -- it's an opaque bytestring expected to be passed to the underlying "native" implementation of x25519, in the same way that the secret key is handled for Ed25519.

investigating the subkey in python:

looks to me like you've got the byte ordering of the Curve25519 secret subkey reversed from the way that GnuPG expects it.

fwiw, gpg-agent complains that the keys don't match:

why not use gpgconf with the dirmngr component to set the keyserver option there?

Another solution to make life easier for gpgme users encountering this stuff would be if gpgme itself knows which uid is a DN and which is not, it could populate the gpgme_user_id_t.address field with content of the 1.2.840.113549.1.9.1 DN component. (or maybe gpgme_user_id_t.email, or both? as a user of gpgme, i don't really understand the difference between these fields)

fwiw, RFC 2253 is obsoleted by rfc 4514 -- which also doesn't have 1.2.840.113549.1.9.1 associated with "EMAIL", but does provide more detailed guidance for implementers of DN-to-string (and string-to-DN, to the extent that this is possible) conversions. Maybe the code should be updated to refer to the non-obsolete specification at least.

I'm reporting this because the above message renders poorly in notmuch -- notmuch gets the user ID from gmime's g_mime_certificate_get_user_id, and gmime populates that field from the uids field of a gpgme_key_t object, and gpgme pulls uid information from gpgsm --with-colons.

Attached is a proposed patch.

Attached is an even worse PKCS7 blob, that should be validatable given reliance on ca.rsa.crt, but it will be rejected by gpgsm because the PKCS#7 bundle includes ca.rsa.cross2.crt in it.

OK, i have replicated this successfully with no ed25519 involved. here's the new intermediate cert:

Which NIST test suite are you referring to? It might not cover certificate pathfinding in the face of multiple cross-signed authorities.

Apparently only one of the secret keys is actually imported: the decryption key, but not the signing key.

thanks, @werner!

Thanks for the fixes, @werner!

Other ways that gpgsm --quiet is not quiet:

I don't think the patch made elementary and ecore-x dev headers an absolute hard requirement; in particular, ./configure --disable-efl works fine to build pinentry without having these headers installed.

Thanks for the verification, @wltjr. I've pushed 19a18ba5fee049aac87b5114763095aaeb42430f to the master branch for future releases.

hm, actually, maybe the efl should be EFL in order to produce and substitute the EFL_CFLAGS and EFL_LIBS variables.

@wltjr maybe it needs ecore-x as well as elementary > 1.18 in the PKG_CHECK_MODULES line? oh, and looks like i screwed up and used > where i should have used >= sorry! fixing those would make the PKG_CHECK_MODULES line be:

I think you're saying "GnuPG will reject all subpackets marked with a critical flag unless there is a specific known semantic for *criticality* for that subpacket" Am I understanding that right? Is there a published list of criticality semantics that GnuPG is willing to accept? How do those semantics differ from standard semantics for the packet in question?

fwiw, i think a patch like this ought to work with reasonably-modern versions of autotools:

@wltjr maybe you could take a look at this?

RFC 4880 says:

See also https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/webkey-directory/-/issues/3 which is the same issue.

This ambiguity appears to be the cause of a recent epic (and to me, largely incomprehensible) thread on gnupg-users. It would be great to have the WKD guidance about fallback strategy be much more explicit. Any room for ambiguity here leads to different outcomes from different WKD clients, and quite a bit of confused discussion by their users.

We currently already ship:

I don't think this fix has made it into a release yet. Could we get a released version of gpgme that contains this fix?

on #debian-dpkg on IRC, Guillem Jover suggested that we might want to fix dpkg specfiles to use +self_spec: instead of *self_spec:.

I'm still not understanding what specifically should be fixed here. Sorry to be dense about it, but the range of options and configuration details that are different are pretty puzzling.

The same concern has been reported at https://bugs.debian.org/964033 -- if dirmngr is not going to follow the specification, it should at least document (and maybe warn?) about how it is divergent.

Can you characterize the failure when ipv6.disable=1 ? The straightforward failure (connect() fails with EHOSTUNREACH after a few seconds) should presumably be treated the same as if some other host happened to be offline. That should result in dirmngr failing over to the next available address for the configured keyserver, right?

I agree with you that a certificate with a lengthy expiration is not cryptographically sensible or wise, @bernhard -- i'd never want to produce such a certificate myself.

This appears to still be a problem, despite upgrading to libksba 1.4.0: