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Dec 19 2023
Dec 18 2023
Just to clarify, above ticket does not reflect my Opinion. It is a direct quote from a different ticket. It is my expert opinion that a combination of "Name <email> + Cryptographic Data" is not a personalised dataset since anyone can create it. But let us please not argue about that.
In T4393#180500, @andrewgdotcom wrote:Perhaps we need to open a new issue for this, to keep the discussion more focused?
@bernhard Following up on discussion elsewhere:
Assuming 4.1.0 means gpg4win - this version is too old. The user should update and re-open the bug with more details if it persists.
I'd say we should not do anything about this. Stale lock files are a general problem but can be solved using admin tasks. We may provide a tool to cleanup things on request.
In T6891#180474, @ikloecker wrote:I'm also wondering why syncing a handful of new messages takes so long. Or, actually, why syncing takes so long even if nothing at all changed on the server (the new messages were already shown by KMail). Maybe it's just the bad IMAP implementation of Exchange. Or maybe Akonadi has marked the folder as bad, so that it always syncs the entire folder.
Okay, now we have pass the warnings down to gpg and gpgsm so the problem will be easier to analyze. We also stop trying after 10 seconds. Sample error messages:
My hypothesis about what happens:
- I enter a folder with some new messages. KMail starts a sync.
- I read some of the new messages. They are marked as read in KMail and (hypothesis) Akonadi records the status changes for later because a sync is running.
- The sync finishes. KMail shows the new messages again as unread which (hypothesis) is what the sync reports.
- In the background Akonadi syncs the deferred status changes to the server. (hypothesis)
Both the company and me are running debian dovecot.
It seems I'm using Exchange (account at my old university and o2mail.de).
I have yet to reproduce this so I had not yet triaged this. The usual case to forward attached mail in Outlook is with .msg files but I recently noticed that Outlook on the web allows you to save mail also as .eml. Also .eml should in theory be much simpler to handle.
Could you share what IMAP server software do you run personally and in the office (probably Dovecot or Cyrus IMAP?).
Your comment on speed might also be why I do not see this issue. Nearly all of my mails and all my large folders go through my private mail server that stands at a dedicated hoster. While our company mail server is located in the office and only reachable through the office internet connection with VPN afaik. I had a tool / command to deliberately slow down connections on some port maybe you can use something like that? I don't think that we can give you access to the company mail server / VPN since you are not a regular employee.
Oh yeah! I was looking for a way to Integrate LLMs / GPT Models into our code. Let us change gpgme_data_indentify so that it queries an online service about what to do with such a file 😅 I guess that is how Microsoft would implement such a feature nowadays. Gathering training data in the help of humanity.
We should sell this as AI or at least as "smart file drop". ;-)
@jukivili Thanks a lot. Please push the change to 1.10 branch and master.
Dec 17 2023
Dec 16 2023
Attached patch should workaround the issue:
We were hoping before christmas. But it is unlikely due to some other stuff we had to do. Early Jan. Definitely a priority for us right now to get it out.
But I guess syncing a second client should do the trick to get the server state. At least ebo has afaik both claws and kmail configured with the same server.
No, our webinterface is telnet :)
Dec 15 2023
Is there also a web interface for the @gnupg.com mail server? It would be useful to be able to check what's the read/unread status on the server.
I saw this recently on a imap subfolder with between 4- and 5000 mails. I have marked a few hundred new ones as read in one go. The folder does not even have mail threads in it and I've never used that function anyway.
This was on my work account @gnupg.com (the only account where I use KMail). Should we ask Werner for details of the server?
@werner Any news on when will 2.4.4 will land? I cannot figure out how to build the project from source, and I couldn't adapt the Fedora packaging to build it either. I would like to have a way to finally sign my git commits.
first draft is up at https://invent.kde.org/pim/libkleo/-/merge_requests/67
The issue was obvious but I looked at the wrong place. I looked for a ref counting error but the issue was that the control only returned a temporary pointer that had exactly one reference.
The Proxymodel approach seems to work; I can't find any fundamental problems due to having more rows in the proxy model than in the source model. Since this is the least invasive approach - with (almost) all changes being contained in the new model, I'm going to continue with this approach for now.
I'm seeing this on an inbox with about 4,000 messages. It may depend on the server (speed) because I'm not seeing this on larger folders on another server. But it does happen for more than one server. I'm not using "Ignore thread". Just the plain old mailing-list style message list. I'll keep an eye on when it happens for which folders.
I would experiment with replacing the flat keylist model with a flat userid keylist model. For places where we only want to see the primary user IDs we could simply put a filter proxy on top. Obviously, that's a big architectural change so I'd expect some breakage. Maybe we start with adding a new model but keep in mind to replace the old model. Or we immediately replace the old model with a primary-user-ids-proxied new model.
Also, are you using the "Ignore thread" function?
Can you be more specific how much is "many messages"? Is it tens, hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands? :)
Thank you for your report.
I suggest to replace size.width() with qMax(size.width(), minWidth) where minWidth is the width of a reasonably sized text (to account for different text sizes) instead of trying to fight with the combo box. Combo boxes are not a good UI element for long entries.
If I understand you correctly we will then have the hirarchical keylist model, the flat keylist model and then as a new model the userid keylist model in libkleo/src/models/keylistmodel ? To be honest you probably know best how to implement this in the most useful way.
I just rechecked we are actually not including the root certificate but we are including the intermediate certificate. Since there never were any complaints about this let us not change this. The original reporter must have somehow deleted the intermediate certificate or it was with an older certificate from us.
Shouldn't that be the difference between SizeAdjustPolicy AdjustToContentsOnFirstShow and AdjustToContents?
I do not think it could cause any harm, if a certificate is re-issued we can adapt and worst case we would ship a very small obsolete intermediate. And it would be just one less of a potential problem when verifying our signature that on this PC at the time the intermediate certificate is not available. Having a self contained chain in the signature is also helpful for scripted verification checks where you would then just need to check that the root CA is trusted and then can check everything offline.
And we take a bit of pride in the fact that we can easily be run on offline systems and there this might actually create a bit of a hassle to get the certificate in there. This would also allow for a more easy verification using osslsigncode itself independent of Microsoft tools.
Gpgpass already installs a desktop file I just overlooked it.