Great. Let me know when the newest gpg4win is released.

fwiw, a comment over on T4422 contains a bash script that tries to force GnuPG to do its certificate/signature re-ordering. this doesn't produce anything canonical yet, but it's the closest i've come so far to getting GnuPG to do something repeatable with a certificate after merging (but even that is not quite stable).

See also
https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2018-December/034131.html
for a first patch to implement this.

werner wrote:

Great. Thank you.

We are aiming for this week.

When will the new gnupg program be released so I can install it?

Charles

So where can I get the corrected file to install? I suppose I need the
new gpg4win, it hasn't been updated yet. If I need the signature or TAR
from your website how can I implement that?

Charles

Where can I get the new thing file to install?

Thanks! I've confirmed that it works for me.

The secret import code actually had a bug in that it silently imported the secret key anyway, so that after importing the public key the secret key showed up. That was not intended because we do not want to allow importing arbitrary keys or subkeys if the don't have a corresponding public (sub)key with the mandatory key-binding signature. This has now been fixed. A fix for the actual problem will come soon.

In T4346#122371, @gouttegd wrote:

Regarding the quality evaluation, several months ago I proposed to optionally delegate that task to an external tool (specified by a new gpg-agent option passphrase-checker). I posted a first draft as D442 and then submitted a proper patchset to gnupg-devel, but although @werner expressed interest it was never merged. I have just checked that the patchset still applies cleanly to both the master branch and the STABLE-BRANCH-2-2. I can re-submit it to the mailing list if needed.

There is a solution for it:

Reading through this issue and the related documentation: Thanks for writing this all down and adding links!

Ok. Let me know so I can try it out.

Yes, I think that if I see an import result with "secret-keys-read && w/o userId's" I can just do a second try.

Checking the OpenPGP specs again, there is actually an "exit" clause for this PGP bug. Or well, what I would consider to be a bug. A fix for this is not easy because it would require to detect this at an outer level (the ascii armor) which we don't do because gpg is build along a streaming concept as almost all Unix tools. What we can do is to allow import of a secret key in that PGP format iff a public key is already there. In practise this would mean to run the import two times and ignore the errors from the first import.

See T4400.

I meant the abbreviations. PGP is based on a code base dating back to 1992; for example we mostly used the term keyblock instead of certificate in the code.

Those terms are not arbitrary, they are in the RFC.

Thanks. [I wonder why the looong established terms public-keyblock and key-signature must be replace by arbitrary new terms.]

• TPK: transferable public key (an "OpenPGP certificate")
• TPS: Third-party signature (any certification within a TPK that is not made by the primary key, and is not a cross-sig made by a subkey over the primary)

TPK ?
TPS ?

In T4393#123047, @dkg wrote:

i don't understand why "import-drop-uids" is useful --

i don't understand why "import-drop-uids" is useful -- it sounds to me like the functionality you're looking for is something more accurately named "accept-certs-without-uids". is that right?

Something to add: This also affects deleted drafts. If I write a new email and decide to delete & not send it, Outlook saves the aborted draft in the trash without encryption.

Somehow I thought that storing drafts locally was not only configurable but the default. But you are right, I also can't find a way to change the storage location.

If there is a way to disable sychronisation of the draft folder in Outlook 2019 when using IMAP, it could mentioned in the meantime, but I couldnt find it.

The other option would also work for me. Thank you!

As a workaround you could also forward the mail to yourself and remove the attachments in the forwarded mail. This would basically work the same as I've described in the previous message.

The next version will have a "decrypt permanently" option. Afterwards you could remove the attachments. Will this help in your use case? You could for example copy the mail into a local folder and remove the attachments then.

Thanks for that summary.

Since it seems there is a renewed interest in adding ECC support to GpgSM (as indicated by the T4098 feature request), I would like to write down here more details about this task.

Pinentry already has a ttyalert option which may be set to beep or flash to ring the bell or flash the terminal, respectively (see commit 1dba96fafa123f3631c0a50bb01835306c23b903).

Sure, but lets use that ticket for this. if you have another topic, feel free to open another ticket.

Good idea.

for user ID selection, you could also potentially match on substring, so uid dkg could select/deselect all user IDs that contain "dkg".

Mnemonics can be made language independent by implementing wordlists for every language. In bip39, each word represents a number, 0 through 2047 (their index in the wordlist).

How scdaemon responds when there is no card available?

Though not directly related to our issues, this bug report on the MSYS2 site reported by their users encountering trouble with GPGME provides additional weight to irreconcilable differences between MSYS2 and GnuPG:

yes. that's why i wrote it in '['-brackets.
but usually, in info-documents a synopsis is written about it.
I think that it's not self-evident, that "you can either give a file or let the tool read from stdin or output to stdout" and therefore should be written explicitly.

The --auto-expand-secmem option is available in 2.2. and master for quite some time. It works if libgcrypt 1.8.2 or newer is used.

Will go into 2.1.12 to be released next week.

Commit 8613727f1ee985c3cfa2c815523312914f033ffd adds considerable detail on both the issues affecting compiling and installing a Windows version of the bindings and what it would take to actually resolve it.

That is good.

Just a heads up to everyone, Fedora is moving forward with this change for Fedora 30 (currently rawhide). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1656282 is the bug tracking it.

Cool and yes, that could also be an option. I was explicitly told by KDE-Windows that this would work for them, too. The problem for me is that I feel comfortable to add a CMake Buildsystem for the Cpp and Qt bindings (maybe Python?). It would be very simple for me, I would not extend it to GPGME core, at least not at first. I could do that on GNU/Linux without having to test an MSVC build.
It will be more effort for me to make autotools work nicely with MSVC. I would have to test that etc.

Just to stress it; I am in favor of allowing builds using other compilers. We allow this on Unix and so we should allow this on Windows as well. We should remember to use different DLL names to make it explicit that a certain DLL is targetting a specific ABI.

Another build systems does not solve your problem. If you want to support another toolchain, that is fine. But it can as well be done with the current build system. it is a matter of adding a new platform triplet to make sure we are not linking against different libc versions. In fact we can build all our code on a wide range of platforms with very different compilers, so supporting MSVC won't be a problem. Mixing them is a bad idea as can be shown by the usual cross-runtime malloc/free problems.

Further discussion revealed that the main problem is QtWebengine, which is a requirement of KMail and basically a fully fledged web browser with millions of lines of code. QtWebengine is only supported for MSVC on Windows and a MinGW port is not feasible, so just compiling KMail with MinGW all the way through like I did in the past is no longer an option. :-(

I give this high priority. This blocks for years that the KDE-Windows initiative provides a way to install the very good crypto MUA KMail on windows. They rely on MSVC (you can say that this is bad, but it is a fact of life). As a former member of that community I am a bit ashamed that I made it harder / impossible for them to build KMail with MSVC because I've moved it to GPGME proper.

I think that is something I want to grapple with next year. The maintainer of KDE 4 windows noted that they currently rely on the patches from: