In T6891#180473, @aheinecke wrote:

@ebo told me that she can reproduce the problem by just moving around e.g. 1000 unread mails to a different folder and then e.g. marking them all as read while they are syncing. At least if I understood her correctly. @ebo could you please describe your test case?

A user also report this problem with Microsoft365 and Outlook Versions 2302 and 2208. (Exchange is the latest online-Version.)

Would it be a workaround idea to double the attachments, so that the original ones would be used as reference for embedded viewing? And the other to be shown?

From a technical standpoint I think the most minimal revocations which are technically possible should be accepted and thus I endorse the feature request.

In any case this is technically required

Actually the public key is personalized data as much as a mail address. In any case this is technically required and users take an informed decisions when they distribute their public key to a site not controlled by them.

It looks that this is a bit more problematic case than I thought. Now building i386 with "-O2 -fsanitize=undefined" flags fails. I need to think little bit more how to handle this.

Just to clarify, above ticket does not reflect my Opinion. It is a direct quote from a different ticket. It is my expert opinion that a combination of "Name <email> + Cryptographic Data" is not a personalised dataset since anyone can create it. But let us please not argue about that.

In T4393#180500, @andrewgdotcom wrote:

Perhaps we need to open a new issue for this, to keep the discussion more focused?

@bernhard Following up on discussion elsewhere:

Assuming 4.1.0 means gpg4win - this version is too old. The user should update and re-open the bug with more details if it persists.

I'd say we should not do anything about this. Stale lock files are a general problem but can be solved using admin tasks. We may provide a tool to cleanup things on request.

In T6891#180474, @ikloecker wrote:

I'm also wondering why syncing a handful of new messages takes so long. Or, actually, why syncing takes so long even if nothing at all changed on the server (the new messages were already shown by KMail). Maybe it's just the bad IMAP implementation of Exchange. Or maybe Akonadi has marked the folder as bad, so that it always syncs the entire folder.

Okay, now we have pass the warnings down to gpg and gpgsm so the problem will be easier to analyze. We also stop trying after 10 seconds. Sample error messages:

My hypothesis about what happens:

• I enter a folder with some new messages. KMail starts a sync.
• I read some of the new messages. They are marked as read in KMail and (hypothesis) Akonadi records the status changes for later because a sync is running.
• The sync finishes. KMail shows the new messages again as unread which (hypothesis) is what the sync reports.
• In the background Akonadi syncs the deferred status changes to the server. (hypothesis)

@ebo told me that she can reproduce the problem by just moving around e.g. 1000 unread mails to a different folder and then e.g. marking them all as read while they are syncing. At least if I understood her correctly. @ebo could you please describe your test case?

Both the company and me are running debian dovecot.

It seems I'm using Exchange (account at my old university and o2mail.de).

I have yet to reproduce this so I had not yet triaged this. The usual case to forward attached mail in Outlook is with .msg files but I recently noticed that Outlook on the web allows you to save mail also as .eml. Also .eml should in theory be much simpler to handle.

Could you share what IMAP server software do you run personally and in the office (probably Dovecot or Cyrus IMAP?).

Your comment on speed might also be why I do not see this issue. Nearly all of my mails and all my large folders go through my private mail server that stands at a dedicated hoster. While our company mail server is located in the office and only reachable through the office internet connection with VPN afaik. I had a tool / command to deliberately slow down connections on some port maybe you can use something like that? I don't think that we can give you access to the company mail server / VPN since you are not a regular employee.

Oh yeah! I was looking for a way to Integrate LLMs / GPT Models into our code. Let us change gpgme_data_indentify so that it queries an online service about what to do with such a file 😅 I guess that is how Microsoft would implement such a feature nowadays. Gathering training data in the help of humanity.

We should sell this as AI or at least as "smart file drop". ;-)

@jukivili Thanks a lot. Please push the change to 1.10 branch and master.

Attached patch should workaround the issue:

We were hoping before christmas. But it is unlikely due to some other stuff we had to do. Early Jan. Definitely a priority for us right now to get it out.

But I guess syncing a second client should do the trick to get the server state. At least ebo has afaik both claws and kmail configured with the same server.

No, our webinterface is telnet :)

Is there also a web interface for the @gnupg.com mail server? It would be useful to be able to check what's the read/unread status on the server.

I saw this recently on a imap subfolder with between 4- and 5000 mails. I have marked a few hundred new ones as read in one go. The folder does not even have mail threads in it and I've never used that function anyway.
This was on my work account @gnupg.com (the only account where I use KMail). Should we ask Werner for details of the server?