I don't know how I'm supposed to change/fix this. Not even gpg does what the ticket wants (see the sub ticket). And gpg doesn't report sufficient information to Kleopatra via gpgme. In fact, gpg doesn't emit a STATUS_TRUST_* message if the signing key is expired. Hence, gpgme reports "unknown" validity for the signing key, so that Kleopatra would always print "The used key is not certified by you or any trusted person." for expired keys even if the key was fully certified before it expired.
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Jan 16 2026
Jan 15 2026
Fixed. Some examples for the improved texts which are based on the texts that gpg prints.
- good signature with expired key
- good signature with revoked key
- good signature with uncertified key
- expired signature with certified key
- expired signature with uncertified key
Indeed, it looks this way. Thanks so much! Windows 10 and 11 in my case.
I created a bunch of smime certs (via OpenSSL) and imported them in gpg4win-5.0.0 @ win11:
- For each keyusage
- keyEncipherment, dataEncipherment
- digitalSignature
- nonRepudiation
- digitalSignature, nonRepudiation
- Alice's certs with different names, Bob's certs with same name for each key
Is this is good enough or should the import cert list also inherit the layout (with or without additional columns) from the currently active tab?
Looks good to me on gpg4win-5.0.0 @ win11. Tested with 20 starts of each combination:
- with / without keyboxd
- quitting kleopatra / killing all processes
Looks good to me on gpg4win-5.0.0 @ win11. Tested with 20 starts of each combination:
- with / without keyboxd
- quitting kleopatra / killing all processes
Looks good to me on gpg4win-5.0.0 @ win11. Tested with 20 starts of each combination:
- with / without keyboxd
- quitting kleopatra / killing all processes
Another correction: I'm quite sure, that changing the width worked for a while (until i created that new tab), but I can't reproduce this anymore (even after deleting kleopatrastaterc). Now the import list again seems to have it's own memory (changing width in the import list will be kept on the next import)
Correction: On import, the width of the last created tab (not the current one) will be used, but additional columns won't be added.
I think this has been resolved in Gpg4win 5.
I think this has been resolved in Gpg4win 5.
I think this has been resolved in Gpg4win 5.
Jan 14 2026
The suffixes _ENCRYPT_SIGN and _ENCRYPT are used to differentiate the two export results.
If only the secret encryption subkey is exported and there is a signing subkey then, additionally, to the secret subkey export a public export is added to the created file, i.e. in the created file there's a PUBLIC KEY BLOCK and a PRIVATE KEY BLOCK. (With the next version of gpgme the public key block only contains the primary key and the signing subkey. Currently, it's a full public key export of the team key.)
In gpg4win-5.0.0-beta479 @ win11
- I can confirm, that a new tab will inherit the layout from the currently active tab
- On import
- The layout of the main tab is kept
The import cert table has it's own layout though (default columns/widths) - should this be different?see next comment
In T7455#211465, @timegrid wrote:Notes:
- The "Encrypt..." and "Sign..." operations might not be needed anymore now, that "Sign/Encrypt ..." is available?
Mostly looks good to me on gpg4win-5.0.0-beta479 @ win11.
Was anything changed? What to test here?
Jan 13 2026
I've changed this now to "GnuPG VS-Desktop" (and "GnuPG Desktop").
Am I right that for VSD we use:
We set the following organization names for the different products:
- Gpg4win: Gpg4win
- GnuPG Desktop: GnuPG Desktop
- GnuPG VS-Desktop: GnuPG VS-Desktop
i.e. the registry path for Kleopatra settings will be for example
SOFTWARE\Gpg4win\Kleopatra\<config group>\<config entry>
On gpg4win-5.0.0-beta479 @ win11 the registry settings are not read due to the organization name not set.
A way to trigger some errors could be trying to save to c:\windows or some other place you can't do.
Or while you have the key list open in okular, remove the key underneath everything and then continue.
We now have a filter for qualified signatures if there is any in the list
Fixed upstream with https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/merge_requests/1301 - not yet in our packaging
@werner: gpg fails to batch import secret Kyber keys:
$ GNUPGHOME=/home/ingo/dev/g10/.gnupghomes/empty gpg --batch --import --verbose ~/dev/g10/testdata/exported/Kyber768_0xDD89C34EF2B69576_SECRET.asc gpg: WARNING: unsafe permissions on homedir '/home/ingo/dev/g10/.gnupghomes/empty' gpg: enabled compatibility flags: gpg: sec brainpoolP256r1/DD89C34EF2B69576 2024-11-14 Kyber768 <kyber768@example.net> gpg: using pgp trust model gpg: key DD89C34EF2B69576: public key "Kyber768 <kyber768@example.net>" imported gpg: key DD89C34EF2B69576/DD89C34EF2B69576: secret key imported gpg: key DD89C34EF2B69576/D07DD3BF9F1AAF4F: error sending to agent: IPC parameter error gpg: error reading '/home/ingo/dev/g10/testdata/exported/Kyber768_0xDD89C34EF2B69576_SECRET.asc': IPC parameter error gpg: import from '/home/ingo/dev/g10/testdata/exported/Kyber768_0xDD89C34EF2B69576_SECRET.asc' failed: IPC parameter error gpg: Total number processed: 0 gpg: imported: 1 gpg: secret keys read: 1
Importing the same files via cli does work:
Screenshots of different imports:
gpgme.log (import of kyber team key with signing key):
gpgme.log (import of normal non team key kyber cert):
or maybe for the fist one "_ENC_ONLY"
Setting to resolved, as I think it should be
Backported for VSD 3.4
Done. I've used the following script to create clear-signed test messages with good/bad signature signed with certificates with different validity and status (expired, revoked).
All sub tickets are done.
This is ready for testing and available in 5.0.0-betaX since about a year.
Should be ready for testing. This is available in 5.0.0-beta479.
This has finally been merged.
In the meantime we don't show the imported certificates anymore in the main window as tabs but in a separate window, i.e. import tabs are no longer an issue. Please retest.
I'm pretty sure that this is done. For gpd5 the changes have been merged upstream and kconfig reads the config keys in the desired order.
Jan 12 2026
Thanks Eva and Ingo. It seems 2.5.17 is not too far away.
I can reproduce this on the command line:
C:\Users\g10code>"c:\Program Files\GnuPG\bin\gpgsm.exe" --export --armor 579BAF3DF16AD462457BCC0897ADBC143D76EA7B 5A2B80F98F518D50891B1F0C7C6131AD107F9938 DB625D2BBBB5A3FD985C0233249B03090E85D402
Issuer ...: /CN=CA IVBB Deutsche Telekom AG 20/OU=Bund/O=PKI-1-Verwaltung/C=DE
Serial ...: 02195D190EBE34
Subject ..: /CN=iOS Test-Smartcard iostest01.sc/OU=BSI/O=Bund/C=DE/SerialNumber=2
aka ..: iostest01.sc@bsi.bund.de
Keygrip ..: 527CE32FD0552D18479442EF90DD5E434C036329I can reproduce the issue only (!!!) with keyboxd (on Windows).
Jan 9 2026
was tested already by timegrid
Looks good to me on gpg4win-5.0.0-beta479 @ win11:
I assume, that testing the functionality is the only thing I can do here.












