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Thu, Dec 4
While working on https://dev.gnupg.org/T7962 I realized that https://dev.gnupg.org/T7717#208938 is probably not the best solution for separating the config files of different distributions of Kleopatra, Okular, etc. Changing the application name has many side effects, e.g. it changes the name of the config files, but that's unnecessary because we put the apps' files already in different folders. There are also other side effects that make things complicated (and require many changes in okular). Taking a step back what we need is different folders for VSD, GPD, and Gpg4win (and KDE Okular). And, for Kleopatra, we need different unique service IDs, but let's ignore this for now. That can easily be solved separately. For the different folders it would be sufficient (and maybe even nicer for selective backups) to use something like %(LOCAL)APPDATA%/GnuPG VS-Desktop, etc., as location for all apps' files of VSD/GPD/Gpg4win. Then we wouldn't have to change/patch anything in Okular (or any other Qt apps).
I believe the reason was simply that we wanted it short, "Upload successful." sounds better than"Publication successful." and I associate keyserver more with upload than publication. Furthermore "Certificate successfully published" has the disadvantage of being correct only for the upload of one certificates, not multiple. So you'd have to have case differentiation.
Wed, Dec 3
Fixed and backported for VSD 3.4.
Ranking as discussed with @ebo
Tue, Dec 2
The remaining issue "Wrong language in GnuPG error messages" is now also fixed. Until there's a new version of libgpg-error I've added the changes as patches.
The root cause is that opening the details reloads the certificate. This triggers a change of the key cache. And that triggers are reload of the group.
Backported for VSD 3.4
This also happens in vsd 3.3.2 and gpg4win-5.0.0-beta413 @ win11
Mon, Dec 1
I meant more like if it's worth a ticket at all, as it's an edge case and not necessarily a problem. Ebo and me already agreed, that we can live with it - but if you think it's worth it, I'll create another ticket.
In T7495#209088, @timegrid wrote:When an uncertified cert is uploaded, the main button of the warning message also says Export Certificate. Should this be another ticket?
This is now implemented for Gpg4win 5.
Fri, Nov 28
They can be expanded/collapsed with +/-
I would say this is done.
When an uncertified cert is uploaded, the main button of the warning message also says Export Certificate. Should this be another ticket?
Thu, Nov 27
Wed, Nov 26
It would be possible as a workaround in Kleopatra to show any identical entries only once. Saving after that will not add any more entries.
Likely a bug in Qt. Accessibility Insights for Windows shows that the parent of all grid items is the tree view. It should probably be the parent item instead so that ATs can go up and count the level.
In T6568#208992, @timegrid wrote:Still open in this ticket (see https://dev.gnupg.org/T6568#208755 ):
- Collapsible items in tree views can't be expanded/collapsed, at least not with space or arrow left/right
Still open in this ticket (see https://dev.gnupg.org/T6568#208755 ):
- Collapsible items in tree views can't be expanded/collapsed, at least not with space or arrow left/right
- Tab navigation in the Smartcard Dialog is broken
New tickets split from this:
- https://dev.gnupg.org/T7952 Make table column headings for other tables accessible
- https://dev.gnupg.org/T7953 Make table header column width accessible
- https://dev.gnupg.org/T7954 Highlight focused cell in tables
Tue, Nov 25
I can't reproduce this on gpg4win-5.0.0-beta413 @ win11.
For our Okular, we should not use the standard file names (okularrc, …) as this would conflict with a regular Okular installation.
Mon, Nov 24
yes, it seems to be caused by one of the patches. I'm trying to figure out which one...
Or Window activity (which is related to focus). I'm wondering if one of my patches is to blame.
I can reproduce. It's not that the Button itself needs to be pressed twice, *something* in the dialog needs to be pressed before the button reacts. So this looks like it's something about focus
I think Gpg4win will keep the language switch because for Gpg4win we don't disable any actions via action restrictions (as far as I know).
In T6568#208875, @timegrid wrote:
- Column sort order and visibility can be configured only via view and nowhere else. That's how it should be, right?
What do you mean?
The description says: The selection of visible columns and sorting should be possible **additionally** via the main menu.
I just wanted to make sure, "additionally" means additionally to the normal (non a11n accessible) context menu and not some other (a11n accessible) place i haven't found.
The preference option does already exist, it is "Prefer S/MIME". If not set (the default), then OpenPGP keys are preferred.
I'd prefer the language switch for testing, but I mostly had tests for translation issues in mind, e.g. wrong translation language, tooltip size in some language - which probably should be covered by setting the language via the envvar. I'll do some tests to see, if this would work.
- Column sort order and visibility can be configured only via view and nowhere else. That's how it should be, right?
What do you mean?
Yes, very likely it was with NVDA's (update) installer. Therefore I looked at NVDA's source code to find out how to make it work for Kleopatra just to find out that NVDA fakes it itself. I would close this ticket as won't fix.
In T7949#208870, @timegrid wrote:Regarding the tests: Being able to set the language for Kleopatra via some environment variable would be fine, too.
Ah, I see. I heard the continuous beeps with another pitch once (probably in the installer then) and thought this was possible. Shall I set this to won't fix then?
In T6568#208750, @timegrid wrote:Questions:
- Column sort order and visibility can be configured only via view and nowhere else. That's how it should be, right?
Regarding the tests: Being able to set the language for Kleopatra via some environment variable would be fine, too.
Separate ticket for the "initial language selection": https://dev.gnupg.org/T7949
The 50 % is when either WKD lookup or keyserver lookup are done and the other is still running. None of those two lookups can be partially done. Hence there's no way to do something with more steps (safe for faking it with a timer). The only alternative is an unspecified progress bar, but unspecified progress bars (aka busy indicators) are completely silent as you can see in the "Loading certificate cache..." busy indicator. (NVDA's code doesn't support unspecified progress except in their own installer which has special code for this, i.e. the installer makes the sound itself.)
This isn't a Kleopatra issue. I suppose this happens with Outlook. The security confirmation checks for the type of keys it's asked for. Either OpenPGP or S/MIME or unspecified.
This isn't reproducible on Linux. (Tested with a Yubikey but that should really make no difference.) Maybe a regression of our Qt patches.

